In Camera
Launched in 2003, 'In Camera' introduced a completely new premise to the interview format. Allowing a global online audience - as well as the interviewee’s friends, family and peers - to pose questions answered during a live and unedited broadcast, In Camera offers the unique chance to watch and participate in candid and often revelatory interviews with world-renowned cultural figures.
David Bailey
The first cultural figure to take to the chair in SHOWstudio's live interview series In Camera, the celebrated photographer David Bailey answered questions from members of the fashion industry, his circle of friends and of course the public, discussing his life and work in a revealing live broadcast.
This interview was showcased online with a series of live stills updated throughout the course of the interview, and a real-time transcript typed and edited live.
Q&A
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Q. David Bailey, we've asked you to begin our series of live interviews because you are the photographer that really set the paradigm for all subsequent fashion-image makers and the formula that everyone else has emulated or reacted against. Name your best picture.
Snaps of my kids, Fenton, Paloma and Sascha.
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Q. Can you describe what motivated you to take a picture at the start of your career? What motivates you to take one now?
What motivates me now is that I'm still trying to get it right.
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Q. Did the Krays want a portrait like the one you took? Did you let them see the contact sheets?
No, I didn't ask them. I never show anyone contact sheets.
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Q. How much do you feel the David Hemmings character in 'Blow-up' was based on you? Did you ever have any conversations with director Antonioni about it?
No, two Italian producers came to see me up at Vogue studios. They asked me if I'd like to make a film, because of my bad Italian and their bad English, I thought they wanted me to direct a film. Then they started to ask me about the way I dressed, which I thought was rather peculiar and then they wanted me to play the part because it was Carlo Ponti's idea to make the movie of a London photographer and a year later Antonioni got involved, who I only met last month for the first time. The way they knew so much about me was through a friend of mine, Francis Wyndham, who I was doing a book with at the time. He wrote a 200 word synopsis on London photographers. I always wondered how they knew that I'd paid £8 for a propeller, since I'd hardly told anyone. The mystery was solved 10 years later when Francis told me that he'd written it. I think he thought I'd be angry, but I couldn't care less. The original casting was Terry Stamp, which would have been better since he was a Cockney. I thought Hemmings was a bit upper-class for the part.
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Q. Do you ever feel you have become a caricature?
I think everyone in history becomes a caricature and that if you can't laugh at yourself, there's something deeply wrong with you.
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Q. It is no secret that photographers are the biggest womanisers in the business. Could it be said that you are partly to blame for creating a blueprint for all egos with a lens?
I think doctors are probably the biggest users of drugs, so your profession dictates to you what's most available. Fortunately, I wasn't a vet.
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Q. On shoots you are reputed to talk rudely and aggressively to women, whilst people who know you say that you are sensitive. Why is this?
People think that people are difficult when they know what they want. I don't make a distinction between photographing men or women. I treat everyone the same.
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Q. What does your dream woman look like?
Catherine Bailey, Baroness Blixen, Ava Gardner, Garbo, Georgia O'Keefe, Angelica Huston, Marisa Berenson. To have a dream you have to have a mystery, so I prefer dark-haired women to blondes. My mother looked like a gypsy.
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Q. At the beginning of the twentieth century, modelling was synonymous with prostitution. What's changed?
So was acting.
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Q. How would you describe the relationship between fashion photography and sex?
I fall in love with everyone I photograph, whether they are men or women, when they're in front of the camera.
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Q. What is your definition of beauty now?
It's not now, for always, the definition of beauty is mystery. It's chasing that rainbow that hopefully you'll never find. Like the Mona Lisa.
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Q. I've heard you once did coke off Princess Margaret's tits. Is this true?
I didn't think she drank Coca Cola. She was always much more charming to me than her husband.
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Q. What was it like, being married to Catherine Deneuve?
Catherine Deneuve has a great sense of humour, which I always find attractive. It usually goes with intelligence. It was great.
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Q. What is 'erotic' for you?
I find women more erotic than men and women live more in their minds than men.
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Q. You captured the spirit of England in the 60s. Do you think you did this for any other decade?
Locations (Archive Two), my new book out in October or November, covers my work in the Seventies, so please buy it and you tell me.
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Q. hi dad
Hi Fenton, always remember: be true to yourself.
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Q. What is your response to people who refer exclusively to your 60s work and dismiss your career after that?
I think it's probably a lack of their knowledge of photography. We're still living in the residue of the 60s.
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Q. What are the central components of the perfect David Bailey image?
Emotion.
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Q. Is it difficult photographing people you know?
It's difficult photographing everyone.
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Q. Is black and white better than colour?
There is only two types of images: good or bad. That applies to colour and black and white.
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Q. What's your opinion of digital photography?
It's just another paintbrush.
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Q. Do you charge art directors for them to see your book?
Unfortunately, no. But I wish I was paid every time someone copied one of my pictures.
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Q. Avedon called you 'Penn without the ink'. Why? What do you think of Avedon's career?
I think Avedon's great. It was one of the greatest compliments I've ever had. Up until then, I never knew he'd heard of me.
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Q. What did you think of Punk? Are there any truly revolutionary ideas in photography today?
I thought Punk was great. It was a social statement, like the 60s. I think you have to take pictures in your own time and let the revolutionary bit happen if it does.
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Q. Why did Bob Richardson kiss you?
Because I was devastatingly attractive and I took it as a compliment.
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Q. Can you see a future for fashion photography?
Everything has become fashion.
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Q. Are you still waiting for Penn to die?
Mr Penn will never die.
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Q. Which photographer of all time do you like the most. Why? Which photographer of the last 10 years do you like the most. Why? Which photographer of the last 1 year do you like the most, Why?
I like all photographers that are sincere about what they do.
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Q. Why did you make Stephen Meisel look so foolish on your documentary 'Models Close Up'?
I didn't think I did. He didn't turn up for his interview because his dog was sick, but he is truly a great fashion photographer.
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Q. What do you think of Nick Knight's work? Where do you see it leading?
Is he paying me for today? If so, great. If not so, great as well.
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Q. Can you be a fashion photographer without shooting any fashion campaigns?
Yes, if you just do editorial.
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Q. What do you think of Rankin?
I love Rankin. He's a man of enormous energy.
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Q. Who has copied you best?
Jack Nicholson.
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Q. Have you ever considered taking photographs of another subject matter, other than people? Or do you find all other things boring in comparison?
For me, people are obviously more interesting, or the residue of their achievements. I never quite see the point of pictures of trees and rocks and landscapes.
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Q. Who do you prefer: Penn or Picasso?
One can't compare people this great. The both did/do what they did/do.
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Q. Which fashion magazines do you read?
The ones that come through the letterbox.
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Q. What would you change in Vogue today? Would you shoot for them again?
Vogue seems to be doing alright. About 80% of the editorial I do is for Conde Nast, anyway.
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Q. Comparing the published text of the raw interviews for your Warhol TV documentary with the finished film, one gets the impression that the Factory were distinctly uncooperative to you, more interested in playing games than anything else. What was it like trying to make the film?
Easy. Andy said he'd only do it if I went to bed with him, so we did the interviews in bed. And I love playing chess.
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Q. Do you feel comfortable in front of a camera?
Only when the photographer's quick.
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Q. How much would you charge for a portrait of me and my son?
Too much.
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Q. Has dyslexia shaped your photography?
I feel dyslexia gave me a privilege. It pushed me into being totally visual.
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Q. When we spoke, you said 'it's only really talented people who have bad times'. What was your lowest point and how did you pull yourself through it?
I said that talented people make mistakes because they take more chances, people that are mediocre remain on the same level. I have had no lowest point. Everything that happens to you adds texture to your life.
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Q. Is there a photograph of yours, that, given the chance, you would like to go back and re-shoot?
All of them.
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Q. You continuously say you aren't satisfied with your work. What is it you're trying to achieve that you feel you aren't?
If I knew that, I'd achieve it and give up.
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Q. You began your career as an outsider in terms of social class. Do you still feel the kind of energy that comes from being an outsider?
Outsiders are not limited to the class system. Most artists are outsiders, they're like gangsters. Gangsters dress better.
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Q. If you are once 'in fashion', consequently, you will in future be 'out of fashion'. How do you deal with this?
When you've been doing it as long as me you realise that fashion is like a yo-yo. I've been in and out of fashion numerous times, but like Frank Sinatra, you can always make a come-back.
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Q. If you don't like frocks/fashion, why go on?
I don't dislike them, I'm just not that interested in frocks. I spent five weeks with the cannibals in New Guinea: I didn't particularly like them either. If you do a fashion picture, you have a responsibility to show the dress, otehrwise it becomes a pointless document.
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Q. You did a brilliant anti-fur campaign; what would you do for an anti-war campaign?
Ask the individual if he is willing to pull the trigger and live with that for the rest of his life.
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Q. Will you be on the anti-war march on Saturday? What would you do about Iraq?
I might be there as a photographer. Iraq I'd move to Texas.
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Q. Would you be happy for your children to be fashion photographers or models?/Hi Dad! I think you are the best dad and photographer. Why do you think this is?
I'd be happy for them to be anything that they want as long as they're happy and decent.
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Q. Do you think models today are as professional in their approach to their work as the sixties girls?
Some are and some aren't. Models are just people like everybody else.
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Q. Do you think college can teach you to be a fashion photographer?
No-one can teach you, it has to come from you.
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Q. Which is the one question you wish you weren't asked during interviews?
All the questions have been quite good.
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Q. If you are a young photographer, where do you start? Dazed and Confused or Bailey's assistant?
Both.
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Q. Do you think a photographer can be successful if he only posesses the technical skils and does not have 'the eye'?
No.
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Q. Why haven't you ever done Pirelli?
The mysterious 'they' said my pictures weren't sexy enough.
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Q. What advice would you give to someone thinking about pursuing a career in fashion photography?
Comfortable shoes.